£11.5m Trump Turnberry revamp gets underway
October 5 2015
The work will see a new ballroom with a capacity of 500 and stretching to 6,000sq/ft, which has been ‘…sympathetically designed to blend seamlessly with the original architecture’ of the 109 year old hotel.
Other improvements will see windows replaced and repair work carried out to roofs and dormers as well as the renewal of all render.
Eric Trump, executive vice president of development and acquisitions for The Trump Organization said: “My father and I have assembled a world-class team consisting of the best architects, contractors and restoration specialists. When completed, Trump Turnberry will be the most luxurious hotel anywhere in the UK and beyond. Having already completed vast renovations to the magnificent golf clubhouse and select public areas, we are thrilled to move into the second phase of our major renovation.”
US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has pledged to transform Turnberry into Europe’s ‘finest’ hotel amidst stalled work to develop the Menie estate.
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#2 Posted by Trombe Wall on 5 Oct 2015 at 12:45 PM
#1 I've not met the Trumps, but from what I've seen via the general media outlets, I'm no fan. I'm marginally interested to know though, what evidence are you referring to, when you state that they are 'two-bit gangsters'? Sure, if that was the case, they would be the wrong side of the bars and not refurbishing much at all. Your attack on the integrity of 3DReid is strange - why only focus on the architect and not the contractor or DT? From memory 3DReid's involvement in the building transcends the Trumps;
http://www.urbanrealm.com/news/1612/Turnberry_golf_resort_Opens.html
http://www.urbanrealm.com/news/1612/Turnberry_golf_resort_Opens.html
#3 Posted by 15th Dalai Lama on 5 Oct 2015 at 14:11 PM
Dear Trombe Wall,
'Two-bit gangster' was the most polite thing I could say, as I know how easily delicate souls out there can take offence. Hows about the phrase, 'tyranical megalomaniac', then? - It more or less amounts to the same thing.
'Wrong side of the bars'? Ah yes, I forgot, the judicial facet of that exemplary model of the w.a.s.p. 'free-world'?
I wasn't aware I had 'attacked' 3DReid's 'integrity'. Like any other sane-thinking organisation, they probably would prefer their client not to be a man who's completely detached from reality, and yet actions do speak louder than we'll-just-have-to-grin-and-bear-it-but-just-give us-the-money-anyway approach.
I don't think this forum is the place for a roll-call of the Trump organisation's sins (there is limitless access to such information), but what about the ethics of being in such an organisation's pay-roll, that's what I am asking?
It just doesn't sit too happily with the genteel nature of the club rules. Not quite cricket is it? Not quite one of us, darling. Or, not quite who we'd like to think we are, maybe?
'Two-bit gangster' was the most polite thing I could say, as I know how easily delicate souls out there can take offence. Hows about the phrase, 'tyranical megalomaniac', then? - It more or less amounts to the same thing.
'Wrong side of the bars'? Ah yes, I forgot, the judicial facet of that exemplary model of the w.a.s.p. 'free-world'?
I wasn't aware I had 'attacked' 3DReid's 'integrity'. Like any other sane-thinking organisation, they probably would prefer their client not to be a man who's completely detached from reality, and yet actions do speak louder than we'll-just-have-to-grin-and-bear-it-but-just-give us-the-money-anyway approach.
I don't think this forum is the place for a roll-call of the Trump organisation's sins (there is limitless access to such information), but what about the ethics of being in such an organisation's pay-roll, that's what I am asking?
It just doesn't sit too happily with the genteel nature of the club rules. Not quite cricket is it? Not quite one of us, darling. Or, not quite who we'd like to think we are, maybe?
#4 Posted by Roddy on 5 Oct 2015 at 16:56 PM
My guess is that neither Trump or 3DReid give 2 hoots to what internet trolls say.
#5 Posted by 15th Dalai Lama on 6 Oct 2015 at 08:38 AM
Dear Noddy,
Of course I agree 100% with you regarding DT and 3DReid, but interestingly, you gave two hoots enough to make a comment, which is what real discussion is about. Readers can draw their own conclusions from your input. Why would you wish to tediously stifle discussion and not see a range of differing opinion being stated?
Please let me assure you, my comments are always sincerely felt about whatever the subject matter is, however wide of a consensus they may appear to be. Also, I have absolutely no interest in 'trolling' whatsoever as you suggest. For your interest:
In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.
This, it would seem, applies to your bullying name-calling.
Sticks and stones...
Of course I agree 100% with you regarding DT and 3DReid, but interestingly, you gave two hoots enough to make a comment, which is what real discussion is about. Readers can draw their own conclusions from your input. Why would you wish to tediously stifle discussion and not see a range of differing opinion being stated?
Please let me assure you, my comments are always sincerely felt about whatever the subject matter is, however wide of a consensus they may appear to be. Also, I have absolutely no interest in 'trolling' whatsoever as you suggest. For your interest:
In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.
This, it would seem, applies to your bullying name-calling.
Sticks and stones...
#6 Posted by Big Ears on 6 Oct 2015 at 14:19 PM
Lama - That is one of the most pathetically (but amusingly) stereotypical troll style responses.
#7 Posted by richard lutz on 11 Dec 2015 at 13:48 PM
Will he allow Muslims to come and relax there and have a round of golf
#8 Posted by troy Robson on 25 Jun 2016 at 01:01 AM
Of course he will, and I am sure, has.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
#9 Posted by troy Robson on 25 Jun 2016 at 21:32 PM
Of course he will, and I am sure, has.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
#10 Posted by troy Robson on 27 Jun 2016 at 17:52 PM
Of course he will, and I am sure, has.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
Did you think that the check-in procedure includes assessing your religion, if any?
This is a business, Lutz. And a good business tries to find a way to serve you, *not* a way not to serve you.
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So the obvious question is can architects work ethically for any two-bit gangster? It would appear so. I'm sure you'll find it in the club codes of practice/conduct.