Does Glasgow have a death wish for its manufacturing industry?

Significant industrial assets being hobbled by the building of residential properties directly adjacent to it?

Back in the day -- I'm sure it was sheds / warehousing on the site and not housing.

Then you have the middle class / artisan angle to the manufacturing that is planned -- the repair of historic ships / berth for the Waverley more like.

Why just historic ships -- how economically credible would any business plan based on this arty farty tourist friendly nonsense be?

Base point how long would the enterprise last before it was screaming for public subsidy?

Some sort of balance required.
These docks are industrial assets and need to stay that way.

I wouldn't worry too much about it fatty - this development will absolutely go nowhere.

Terrific proposal, cannot wait to see this one break ground. Brilliant designs from O'Donnell Brown. Will also we great for the wider Govan area's continued regeneration.
#1 Rather than being stuck in the past obsessing over heavy manufacturing...by and large gone from Western Europe, perhaps it would be better to look to the future....unless you want to finance, set up and run some kind of industrial set up at the site?

Dull and dreich and hugely disappointing for site of such importance and potential.

Presenting a blank, non-active facade all along dock number 3 is most definitely not the way to way to support a vibrant public space.

Also looks like the designers under-cooked the capacity in the original planning doc - note that the 2 generous plaza spaces to Govan Rd have now become one rather less generous space.
https://www.transformingplanning.scot/media/1672/115-new-city-vision-ltd-appendix-b.pdf

The problem with schemes like this is that we give one architect the responsibility for both masterplan and for the design of all the buildings. We end up with an architect's idea of urban design (often sub-optimal) as well as mono-tone, monolithic designs unrelieved by art or ornament or articulation and a plan that sterilises the dock edge -see Stallan Brand at Kingston Street for a comparitor.

Of course having said all this - given the apparent lack of any design governance in the city,there is no reason it shouldn't fly through planning.

"#1 Rather than being stuck in the past obsessing over heavy manufacturing...by and large gone from Western Europe"

Agree to disagree

If this does go ahead there is a sizeable banana skin in the offing.

If Planning Appeals Div has called in the proposed Ingram St flats due to the potential 'noise' issue due to proxiity with the City Halls then I see no reason why a proposed, reactivated maintenance dock adjacent newly built housing wouldn't be called in too. How will noise be mitigated?

I cannot see a dock, with rivetting, drilling, hammering and grinding being consented. This was asked at pretty much all of the public consultations and the answer wasn't forthcoming.

Need to take a feather from what Liverpool have completed across they're docks and look to energise and activate this side of the Clyde, so much potential. The way things are moving, residential might be the only viable development finance stream. Just don't let it become more student accommodation.

Student Accommodation is the best way of regenerating. Look at the buzz about Dumbarton Road nowadays - not to mention the significant up on food places.

Can't imagine there would be a lot of viability in a semi-urban area like Govan - think student blocks are close to educational establishments, albeit this is the other side of the river from Glasgow University. Given the demographic of the local area, not sure if students would flock to living there.

I'd also like to know how much needed homes and community related proposals as it says in the text above equals student accommodation? Maybe with this development it might bring life back to Govan Road after all these years, students might even find that enticing, but that's a few years into the future. Govan has been waiting over 20 years for something to evolve around here while multi-million developments have sprung up all around the area.

Is ther architectural legacy of this generation to the city just flat roofed cuboids?

What are we calling this period of pink architecture??

#12 - Dem-Master heaven. Time to buy some of their stock, future looks bright.

At least the graving docks still exist, a very pleasant if unofficial public park for this part of Glasgow. I think that we can safely say that Glasgow has mastered the nondescript grey cube with nil urban design around or between, I wish that we could move on. This site needs some serious thought, and it hasn't had it.

Oh dearie me. The developer has form for making a mess of things (Gartloch). I believe the cuboidal scheme with too much open space has been done before in Glasgow and then torn down. The red tower looks almost good but not quite, very steampunk if you like that sort of thing. We won't be able to offshore our industry (and pollution) forever so agree with commenters saying that we should be looking to steadily reinvigorate our own intelligent small scale production to create skilled jobs, renewed pride and proper community in our city.

Dry docks are inherently very noisy places because of the nature of the work. How can they want to reactivate these dry docks then build houses all around it. It doesn't make sense.

Amsterdam has dry docks close to the city centre, they have build a lot of yuppy flats near the dry docks in what used to me mostly an industrial area. Now the people in the flats complain about the noise from the dry docks and the city authorities are looking at moving the dry docks somewhere else.