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Clyde Metro to bootstrap transport provision in Glasgow

December 9 2022

 Clyde Metro to bootstrap transport provision in Glasgow

Moves to return trams to the city of Glasgow have taken a step forward after the Scottish Government named the Clyde Metro a priority for investment through 2042.

Early plans for a hybrid 'heavy' and 'light' tram network would see a combination of new lines built together with the conversion of existing rail routes to serve areas such as East Kilbride and Newton Mearns.

This would plug gaps in the existing transport network as well as free up additional capacity on the railways.

Cllr Susan Aitken, Leader of Glasgow City Council said: "This announcement represents a significant milestone in our pledge to establish a modern, sustainable, integrated public transport system for Glasgow and the surrounding region.

"A Clyde Metro can help us address the climate emergency by delivering clean and net-zero carbon connectivity, whilst also providing the affordable, sustainable and integrated public transport system our citizens deserve."

The mass transit proposal is one of 45 transport projects recommended for investment by Jacobs and Aecom in the Second Strategic Transport Projects Review, which recommends further development of the business case and design. 

13 Comments

Snail's pace
#1 Posted by Snail's pace on 9 Dec 2022 at 21:53 PM
This sounds great, though 2042?! Really?? Can we not just get on with it...
James Hepburn
#2 Posted by James Hepburn on 10 Dec 2022 at 12:11 PM
Sounds like someone making trams has a direct link to the city council. Unless these are replacing buses there is no benefit to the current system. The proposed tram route to Newton Mearns for instance still misses out two thirds of the area ironically running through the most affluent part where people all have cars.
Christopher Redmond
#3 Posted by Christopher Redmond on 10 Dec 2022 at 14:37 PM
isn't this what electric buses do?
Ross Anderson
#4 Posted by Ross Anderson on 10 Dec 2022 at 15:30 PM
Exciting development - if a little slow (in line with typical uk public transport development)

Can't lie and say that the route up through clydebank would be fantastic, anything to free us from the number 2 bus
Robert
#5 Posted by Robert on 11 Dec 2022 at 07:37 AM
The Scottish Government can’t even get a couple of ferries built let alone this proposal. Another shambles in the making.
modernish
#6 Posted by modernish on 12 Dec 2022 at 15:07 PM
Fantastic idea. Map the existing infrastructure, but present in a different format and suggest running different format carriages..hey presto a 'new' idea!
This isn't a milestone to anywhere, it's just a rebadge of the starting line.
The routes and vehicles are an issue, but the real stumbling block is cost. At the moment the cost between personal car taking you exactly where you want when you want is far to close the public transport options. Either the cost of driving into and around the city needs to be increased or public transport needs to be subsidised to the point that one is far more attractive than the other.
modernish
#7 Posted by modernish on 12 Dec 2022 at 16:48 PM
Fantastic idea. Map the existing infrastructure, but present in a different format and suggest running different format carriages..hey presto a 'new' idea!
This isn't a milestone to anywhere, it's just a rebadge of the starting line.
The routes and vehicles are an issue, but the real stumbling block is cost. At the moment the cost between personal car taking you exactly where you want when you want is far to close the public transport options. Either the cost of driving into and around the city needs to be increased or public transport needs to be subsidised to the point that one is far more attractive than the other.
ACH
#8 Posted by ACH on 13 Dec 2022 at 08:17 AM
I'd welcome any improvements to the Glasgow public transport system. I think the most important change would be first to unify everything under one system. I should be able to get a day ticket (ideally ~£5) valid for all buses, subway, local rail and, in the future, trams.
Ghetto King
#9 Posted by Ghetto King on 13 Dec 2022 at 13:31 PM
The line to Newton Mearns has some issues. With the rate of expansion of Newton Mears , there does seem to be an effort to link up these new areas. Also , there is no linkage for example through Clarkston and then either to Castlemilk or EK or perhaps both. Just seems to be single purpose lines which is a shame unless they have planned for expansion later.
Paul in Oz
#10 Posted by Paul in Oz on 13 Dec 2022 at 21:12 PM
The full delivery is into the 2040s, they are not saying they will not get started, just it will be a prgressive set if lines that gets delivered, watch for the easy metro conversions first and the creation of some missing links in the infrastructure, so adding a spur from Paisley Gilmore to the airport will get done ASAP and then they will extend the QUH whist converting some exiting lines to metro running etc, you heard it here first folks....
Bob ra Builder
#11 Posted by Bob ra Builder on 14 Dec 2022 at 05:25 AM
#10 if we all can have a bit more patience for the development of the next level of travel we can use the Lion Chambers hoverport, the Egyptian Halls hyperloop terminal and the 50 Argyle Street escalator to the moon which I'm awaiting final designs on...
H
#12 Posted by H on 14 Dec 2022 at 10:41 AM
Tram train is the way that Newcastle has delivered with their Metro system and makes good sense for Glasgow
it can provide a more intensive local service on many radial and inner 'loop' routes (some still in use, others still recoverable, or connectable with light rail vehicles able to negotiate steeper gradients & tighter curves with greatly reduced loadings on track & structures)
Key to this can be removing local trains from Glasgow Central and Queen Street High level platforms, and reinstating 4 tracks at both low level stations to offer a very frequent cross-city service
4 tracking between Yorkhill and Jordanhill Junctions with a combined 'new' station for Finnieston to serve Argyle Street (Sandyford) and SEC complex eliminates a big bottleneck when any small disruption demands train regulation through this bottleneck. Maryhill services can then run through from Anniesland, and initially terminate at Hyndland (connections plus Gartnaval Hospital with more direct trains for more staff and clients) Ultimately those trains could loop via Bellgrove and avoid the delays of reversing at Queen Street and Anniesland
G&SW services from Clyde Coast can run via the Union Railway and the rump of the viaduct into St Enochs, with almost 2 metres of lowering the rails across Briggait, and 250 metres to drop and pass under Stockwell Street, to run in to Central Low Level (platforms 18 and 19 reopened), and through to Finnieston or beyond
Unless taken back for rail the Stobcross Tunnel under Kelvingrove Park can become a walking & cycling link from Kelvinbridge to SEC (and both Finnieston Stations) - well lit and a Scottish version of Leake Street with urban street murals very much more - with the old rail links to KGV Dock & Deanside branch still very much recoverable the tram train can run in to QEUH and then on to Glasgow Airport via Renfrew - and put this large town plus the major residential development at Kings Inch back on the rail network
Steven Watson
#13 Posted by Steven Watson on 24 Dec 2022 at 20:36 PM
The new map shows a plan which is not particularly ambitious. It is way too bias for travel in and out of the city centre to single destinations. No Erskine - Bishopton link, nothing worth having west of Paisley Canal. Mix of light / heavy for journeys to Glasgow Airport, no suburban link (mind you Glasgow folk only know their own back yard and the City Centre) and no thought to improve travel for those trunk travellers from Northern and Eastern Scotland who arrive at Queen Street and want to go further than George Square. Similarly dire for travellers between the south and Glasgow Airport with no possibility of any West Coast Main line services going anywhere but the congested Central - which is the ultimate destination for only a few. .

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